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76% |
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17% |
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MBeckett
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Haim wrote:
MBeckett wrote:
Tim Sutton wrote:I banned it initially as remote admins were buying new PC's with it on. I wasn't impressed to say the least!  lol
We're now getting to the point where our industry specific software is reporting as Vista "capable" or whatever the word is so we'll be starting our review process soon.
On that side of things, we're looking at getting a TechNet subscription for all the testing goodies. Anyone have anything bad to say about them?
Well we are a MS partner and we have subscription to the Microsoft Action Pack which was pretty useful until they dropped the XP CD's.
Only Vista CD's are now available and they won't even replace your old XP CD (SO DON'T LOSE IT).
As for your Vista migration, good luck with that and keep us updated (Sysaid problems only please) 
As long as you have your licenses, even one XP CD will do (but if you only have one, start making copies )
I was expecting 'them' to lose the CD and the wallet with it (this wallet contains the CD key - best to make a copy of this too) 
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18/07/2008 19:41:46
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HCNW
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Our company will NOT deploy Vista anytime soon if even ever. We are holding out until early next year, hoping to leapfrog Vista and go with Windows 7. I've heard by February next year they should be releasing this.
Half of our applications do not work with Vista, not to mention that it seems horribly slow 
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19/07/2008 05:27:40
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René Rijk
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We won't upgrade to Vista. Vista is the same mistake as Windows ME was if you ask me.
I hope windows 7 is more like XP as it is now.
We still can deliver computers with XP to our clients. Lets hope we can do this untill there is a better os than Vista.
Kind regards,
René
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30/07/2008 22:58:58
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Harold.Ballinger
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If forced to move off of XP, I would rather migrate to Linux desktops than have to migrate to Vista.
We still run XP and have no immediate plans to migrate to Vista. We have a Vista machine in our Test/Development network and have had problems with driver issues, software compatibility and low performance compared to XP.
Something that I have found interesting is that at most Industry conferences (VMware Conferences, Microsoft Server 2008 rollout, etc.) many of the speakers have asked the audience if any of them have implemented Vista, and at every conference (including the Microsoft rollout), only a few people had implemented Vista, and of those it was in very limited use.
I agree with the assessment that its a dog like ME was and I'm just surprised at how seriously it has made me consider switching to non-MS desktops for the first time. If it weren't for a few critical applications, I probably would have already made the move to non-MS --- and I'm no Linux or OpenSource fanboy either.
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31/07/2008 04:23:19
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MBeckett
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I've noticed still to this date that no one has opted to roll out Vista to an end user level!!!
Could you imagine the problems out there in no man's land? I think it's hard enough for some to use office, let alone understand XP or even Vista for that matter!
Change is a hard thing to take in for end users, I would have suggested pen and paper but that would count me out of the job!!!! 
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25/08/2008 17:25:03
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RobG
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We're rolling out Vista only on an as-needed basis. Basically, we stopped using downgrade rights on new hardware about a year ago after running a live-test environment with 1 poor lab rat per department. Some software we just run as administrator, but most of our stuff works fine with Vista. So far, we're about 40% Vista and about 60% XP. Group Policies to control UAC behavior fix about 90% of the Vista complaints, and another 9% of Vista complaints are actually Office 2007 complaints. 1% are the developers who still want to change code directly in %systemroot%, don't like having to edit their hosts file in their user profile folders and copy it back to their etc folder, and hate having to use ctrl+shift+enter to open a cmd prompt as admin.
People holding out for some dramatic change with Windows 7 are going to be disappointed, since it's going to be the same underlying system, probably with a few cosmetic changes so win 7 people will have a better OOBE with UAC without having to create group policies to control it.
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27/08/2008 11:29:59
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MBeckett
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To be honest, the amount of trouble that I've seen friends and ex-colleagues come across with Vista truely puts me off. It seems to run like a dog most of the time and apart from looking nicer, it seems to be more annoying.
You may be lucky to have no real issues but then in my view I've seen more problems with Vista than without.
I'll stick with XP for as long as we can, so far it's been the best for business needs.
Windows 7 will have to go through thorough testing too, nothing's getting away with it lightly in my eyes.
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26/09/2008 08:44:57
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Cataclysm13
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I have deployed vista on 98% of the computers and our company has yet to encounter any serious issues (knock on wood).
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26/09/2008 11:17:57
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Tim Sutton
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Cataclysm13 wrote:I have deployed vista on 98% of the computers and our company has yet to encounter any serious issues (knock on wood).
Congratulations, mate. You are officially the first person I've run into who's roller this out within the workplace.
Harold.Ballinger wrote:If forced to move off of XP, I would rather migrate to Linux desktops than have to migrate to Vista.
I felt pretty much the same. I recently consolidated my home machines into one laptop and was faced with Vista or something else. I went for a Mac Book and have loved it! I've got VMWare running some windows machines on it and can honestly say that I don't intend to but another Windows based laptop for at home again.
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28/09/2008 22:25:01
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Obelix
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Tim Sutton wrote: Congratulations, mate. You are officially the first person I've run into who's roller this out within the workplace.
I wouldn't be too surprised. You familiar with the term "banana products" ?
*wicked wicked smile*
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26/01/2009 09:59:47
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AtomicDon
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Is there any thoughts on when Sysaid will become windows 7 compatible? I am currently testing Windows 7 on one machine in the office (we are skipping Vista) and sysaid does not report back to the server with any information. Hope I am in the right topic for this!
Thanks!
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26/01/2009 10:52:43
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Haim
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AtomicDon wrote:Is there any thoughts on when Sysaid will become windows 7 compatible? I am currently testing Windows 7 on one machine in the office (we are skipping Vista) and sysaid does not report back to the server with any information. Hope I am in the right topic for this!
Thanks!
Hello AtomicDon,
Our development team is currently working on adjusting the SysAid agent for Windows 2008 and windows 7.
As soon as those changes will be released, we will post it in the community.
Best regards
Haim
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05/03/2009 23:43:16
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Michaelebh
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at the risk of being shotdown here. I am a Vista user at home. in my business we will not be going to it. Like some others in this post i am hoping to leap frog Vista. but thats not because i dont like it. its simply because i started a year ago and 95% of my machines were using XP so i have left it as is, and HP continue to roll back there OS to XP, and if its not broken why change it i figure. however i dont think Vista NOW isent all that bad with the updates. i mean, from memory, when XP first arrived lets not forget it wasnt as flawless as most people seem to think, it had its issues in the beginning, and like vista it needed some ironing out, although vistas was a little heavier. i agree Vista started bad, but now, isent all that bad, unfortunately, it took to the world like a brick to water rather than a duck and lets face it first impressions last. end of it is im not bursting at the seems with excitement to use vista but i dont think its quit as bad as everyone else makes out to be.
on another note like most of you im happy to see and use windows 7 (got to use the beta version ). yes it installed fast and it seemed to work seemlessly with the older computer i had installed it on. my concern is, is that once it is officially released will it still be as quick? or will they be adding a tonne more to it which on release date will see it as quick as its vista counterpart. at the moment 7 looks a feels good but ill hold out until its been fully released to pass judgement and expect it to be the hero everyone is hoping for. they are still completing it so my concern is whats left to add, and what effect it will have to the overall running of the system. how do we know Microsoft didnt just give us a quick version to start the whispers so that when it does release it will sell really good. 
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17/03/2009 08:58:08
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bjarrett
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It has been discussed, but so far I have been able to stave it off for another couple of years. Vista and businesses just don't belong together. As Techguy has stated, XP works perfectly well, so why switch?
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24/03/2009 08:55:09
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Tim Sutton
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I agree that as a home based OS then Vista isn't all that bad but as a business one it's a mistake in my opinion.
I was recently pointed at TinyVista and it's sibling TinyXP as an interesting exercise in what can be done with the OS's. Ok, before anyone says anything - yes, they technically violate the licensing agreements and I wouldn't have one on my work network for lover nor money! However, I believe they only violate said agreement on the basis of the licence key - which I promptly removed and used our own ones so I reckon it's all good. The good point is that a full XP install is about 2Gb and the full Vista install is only 3Gb!! How they've cut it all down I don't know but would love to find out. The XP VM machine I'm running is more than happy with 256Mb of RAM and the Vista one is running only 500Mb off the top of my head. Both fully functional and happy as can be.
TinyVista has been the only Vista install I've even vaguely liked enough to use for personal use rather than being forced into it.
Windows 7 ..... now there's something that's going to proving interesting. From the beta I've tried it seems much better than the existing Vista releases and I'm hoping it'll only improve as the refinements progress. I'm also very interested to see what spec it will run on as I think MS might have learnt its lesson with the huge Vista footprint .... ok, I hope so at least.
The more I look at different operating systesm, the more I consider them just applications and you need to pick the right one for the job.
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