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BJINS
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Hi all,
I am not sure what we all know about Chrome OS. I have today been watching a release Webcast from Google Chrome OS. It has given me several questions. If you want to see this video see here:
http://www.shareholder.com/visitors/event/build2/mediapresentation.cfm?companyid=GOOGPR&mediaid=39856&mediauserid=0&TID=776547372:7e575deb1775d83e280585c090aa00d2&popupcheck=0&shexp=200911181634&shkey=2477611a7c296374a1d4e1bcefe749df&player=1
I don't understand several things.
1. Everyting is in the browser. Great, but what if you are not connected to the internet? Ur laptop/netbook is useless!
2. How many of us, in the office, really only use web applications? The are blocking out a massive market!
3. I know from my own experiences, that you cannot use any other browser than IE, for example my online banking. So what do you if you are trying to run something which only accepts IE/FF?
4. Apps like iTunes, one of the most used applications in the world, running iPods and iPhones, two of the most popular gadgets in the world. Can't be used. Millions more users lost. Who is going to use Chrome OS???
Does anyone have any answers? Any more questions? You never know we might even find some Google staff inside the forums! =)
M
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20/11/2009 22:59:19
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simplydobermans
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I see it as a usable PMP more than a low end laptop or netbook
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23/11/2009 04:59:02
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Haim
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Hy BJINS.
I also downloaded the alpha version and have it running on my own machine, and while I agree the issues you raised are valid, I think Google target low end netbooks and other small net-oriented devices.
Also, as far as I understand, Chrome is just another Linux distribution, so you can mod it's code and add any feature you want, so i'm sure new mods will be released that will allow to run programs from the HD and not just from the cloud.
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23/11/2009 05:04:06
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BJINS
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I agree that this could be done, but that goes against their entire product model.
They are selling their new OS on the basis that you don't need anything out of the cloud. So if people then start modifying the code to run apps out of the cloud, they would need to rethink their entire strategy.
And again, I have issues with the lack of Chrome support. Until it is accepted as a mainstream browser, with the level of support that IE and Fx have I can't see the model being useful for anyone!
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23/11/2009 09:50:27
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Hey BJINS,
You may find these 2 articles interesting as they cover more or less the same issue:
[url=http://www.cio.com/article/508380/Why_Chrome_OS_Will_Fail_Big_Time?source=CIONLE_nlt_insider_2009-11-23]Why Chrome OS Will Fail Big Time[/url]
[url=http://www.cio.com/article/508428/Google_Chrome_OS_Everything_You_Need_to_Know?source=CIONLE_nlt_insider_2009-11-23]Google Chrome OS: Everything You Need to Know[/url]
Enjoy !
Oded
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23/11/2009 10:11:30
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BJINS
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I have to say I am quite impressed with how well I evaluated that story in a short forum post, but you are right Oded they both bring my main criticisms into focus. I will be interested to see what other stories we see appearing over the next 10 months leading to release.
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24/11/2009 00:27:22
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They are betting on the cloud computing concept which rely on :
1. Virtualization technology.
2. IPv6 which said to eliminate network perimeter.
3. Applications (think of SaaS).
All have leave the conceptual phase and enter the production phase.
Internet connection is pretty much identical with communication network. Can you think of a place where there're no phones ? Where a person can not be reach by cell phone ? It has slowly become a rare thing now would it ?
Once the corporate harvest the freedom of not having a perimeter, they will start equipting their workforce with gsm 3g modem which is bound to fall price wise. It is not a hype why almost every application provide a mobile solution including sysaid. *smile*
On a more private perspective the explosion of social network also drive the whole industry to the same place, in some cases (like the megan fox fan group I follow) the demand to be always online is even higher than corporate users. Hardware vendors are starting selling note and net books with a built-in gsm modem like it's w i-fi or bluetooth. Phone company start bundling their product with gprs service and in my world even with the internet aware low cost cell phone !
This is the utopian vision Chrome developers after.
In near future it's prolly not happening but the kinda thing people do with IT makes me pretty sure I'll be witnessing a "working" product of this concept in my life time.
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24/11/2009 05:11:18
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Haim
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I'm not sure if I agree with the pessimistic approach to Chrome OS.
This seems to me like the next step in the Netbooks evolution, and just like the netbooks were dismissed by the analysts and media at first as being "too simple", their market share is over then 10% of all computers sales.
Chrome is just perfect for those Mini Netbooks Google is planning to run Chrome OS on, and it's great for the on-the-go simple computing.
When I see what I do on my computers most of the time (surfing, chatting with friends on facebook/email, watching movies playing games and of course working with SysAid) it seems that everything can be done online...
I think that for proper daily use, Chrome will have work in dual boot with windows (for the programs you actually need to run locally or don't have an online equivalent) until all those issues will be sorted out, but with Google's upcoming takeover of the mobile world with Android, and the continuing evaluation of could computing, this seems like a big step forward to WEB 3.0
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24/11/2009 06:12:54
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BJINS
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I still question whether people will commit to something that limits them so much. Listening to music? How would people manage that.
In the release presentation, Sundar Pichai cleverly overlooked the fact that, although he could play the U2 track, Google limit you to only 30 seconds of it.
How many people actually stream movies and watch them on the net? Not a lot, nearly all will save them and watch from the hard drive, the same with most games. I don't think there are many people who play games that are wholly in the cloud.
I am not saying that Chrome has no plus points, but I am saying that there are serious limitations. I think a quote from one of the articles Oded posted was interesting. Along the lines of "It will become interesting to see the number of people who install Windows 7 over their original Chrome OS installation."
And another thing, you may do a lot of those things online, but how many do you enjoy using Chrome? You said yourself in another post that Firefox is the best browser... 
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